tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post1181818944788194729..comments2023-09-26T04:56:13.105-07:00Comments on Guilty With An Explanation: What Art is Notheartinsanfranciscohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07535397382991383931noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-22556889818617299322008-04-06T17:47:00.000-07:002008-04-06T17:47:00.000-07:00Star,I totally agree with you, of course.It's obsc...Star,<BR/><BR/>I totally agree with you, of course.<BR/><BR/>It's obscene that anyone would think torturing animals to death is anything other than vicious and inhumane cruelty.heartinsanfranciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07535397382991383931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-54824380149621002742008-04-06T14:22:00.000-07:002008-04-06T14:22:00.000-07:00speechless. speechless that someone would think th...speechless. speechless that someone would think thatit's art and that an institution would find a way to justify exhibiting it.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad that the exhibit was cancelled but what about the trustees and board of the museum who seem to feel courting controversy is more important than exhibiting real art?MartiniCocoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12509335664000215080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-25299401796162223512008-04-02T10:41:00.000-07:002008-04-02T10:41:00.000-07:00Christy,I think the guy is a psychopath, not an ar...Christy,<BR/><BR/>I think the guy is a psychopath, not an artist. <BR/><BR/>And I'm disgusted with those who think that anything different and daring is art. Glorifying brutality makes us lesser beings.<BR/><BR/>Jocelyn,<BR/><BR/>Me, too. Quite nauseous.<BR/><BR/>Odat,<BR/><BR/>I would prefer in this instance to bite someone for the animals.heartinsanfranciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07535397382991383931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-77902396182040716892008-04-02T05:05:00.000-07:002008-04-02T05:05:00.000-07:00I'm glad you' speak for the animals.... ;-)PeaceI'm glad you' speak for the animals.... ;-)<BR/>PeaceOdathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03973602431527460287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-64751951947962180512008-04-01T22:05:00.000-07:002008-04-01T22:05:00.000-07:00The very idea has made me nauseous.The very idea has made me nauseous.Jocelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03227519811818290510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-37307553577051562562008-04-01T16:31:00.000-07:002008-04-01T16:31:00.000-07:00Even with the disturbing images of his depicition ...Even with the disturbing images of his depicition of murdered animals, he also has artwork of harmed naked people, of butcher knives stabbing in "artful" forms. It's disgusting. And personally, if I came across someone who considered this art I would be afraid and suspicious of that person. <BR/><BR/>For instance, imagine a scenario in which a child has gone missing. People in the area were questioned. One person's car was searched. In the car the police find pictures of brutally murdered animals, naked people and butcher knives. The man claims these are "Art." Would you or would you not consider that person an immediate suspect in the missing child case?Christyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08794096718913021944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-72758555189148336692008-04-01T16:18:00.000-07:002008-04-01T16:18:00.000-07:00Rebecca,I suppose I am going down as an enemy of t...Rebecca,<BR/><BR/>I suppose I am going down as an enemy of the First Amendment, but I do not believe he has the right to murder animals in the name of art or anything else.<BR/><BR/>Where is the line between doing so and murdering people for artistic expression?<BR/><BR/>I think the First Amendment was meant to apply only when nobody was being hurt or killed. For me, that changes everything.<BR/><BR/>Nobody should be free enough to kill with impunity. Although I would never hunt, I do not argue with the right of others to do so for food, but wanton slaughter of animals to make videos - there is no justification at all in that.heartinsanfranciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07535397382991383931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-57753631465898767052008-04-01T13:31:00.000-07:002008-04-01T13:31:00.000-07:00Wow, that is truly appalling! I can't believe ANYO...Wow, that is truly appalling! I can't believe ANYONE would consider this art. I believe in the first amendment, in that he has the right to create what he will. But it doesn't mean we need to give him an audience. I mean, did he really use live animals, and record their murder? Why? How could he do that? Isn't that how serial killers start? GAH!Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08854080140004540619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-24824519273936074902008-03-31T13:38:00.000-07:002008-03-31T13:38:00.000-07:00Wng,I am strongly opposed to censorship, too, but ...Wng,<BR/><BR/>I am strongly opposed to censorship, too, but I think that in order to censor art, you first have to recognize that something IS art.<BR/><BR/>Brutally murdering helpless animals fits no definition I know of art.<BR/><BR/>Jameil,<BR/><BR/>Yes. It's gross and also a gross misinterpretation of anything remotely artistic.<BR/><BR/>Dianne,<BR/><BR/>Good. The more the um, merrier?<BR/><BR/>David,<BR/><BR/>Well, they got their publicity. And it lasted about 15 minutes. See post above.heartinsanfranciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07535397382991383931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-85549155042531160622008-03-31T13:17:00.000-07:002008-03-31T13:17:00.000-07:00"Self expression" is hard to squish and "art" is h..."Self expression" is hard to squish and "art" is hard to define, but I am perplexed beyond belief if this is all this guy has to say. Surely he has greater depth to him, a unique thought or idea in which to make his art.<BR/><BR/>And if this guys decides this is the best he can do, it truly boggles ones mind this the the best the SF Art Institute can come up. Goodness me. <BR/><BR/>Are they both that desparate for publicity?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-41233082279302013412008-03-31T12:31:00.000-07:002008-03-31T12:31:00.000-07:00I am there with you in spirit!I am there with you in spirit!Diannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02946500110072411468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-15924782241310139702008-03-31T10:50:00.000-07:002008-03-31T10:50:00.000-07:00what in the heck... who calls a bludgeoning art? ...what in the heck... who calls a bludgeoning art? that's gross.Jameilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242625946552047911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-83291068314473608492008-03-31T10:26:00.000-07:002008-03-31T10:26:00.000-07:00Wow! Speaking as a fervent protector of the artist...Wow! Speaking as a fervent protector of the artist and a someone especially sensitive to censorship of any kind I have to say that I am behind you 100%. That isn't art, it's criminal. If he was killing people and photographing it would we give him this kind of voice? <BR/>It's sick.<BR/>I will be there with you inspirit when you speak tonight.Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00900726730265994177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-47949266798213400092008-03-31T08:46:00.000-07:002008-03-31T08:46:00.000-07:00Liz,It needs to stay suspended. And they're not ph...Liz,<BR/><BR/>It needs to stay suspended. <BR/><BR/>And they're not photos, the exhibit consists of six giant tv's with the snuff videos, one per animal. <BR/><BR/>Sick, sick, sick.<BR/><BR/>Bob,<BR/><BR/>I will. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Mariposa,<BR/><BR/>I love what you said about art celebrating life. I've always thought of it that way, too.<BR/><BR/>Van,<BR/><BR/>I'm with you all the way. The guy belongs in prison, not in an art gallery.<BR/><BR/>If his plan is to desensitize us to violence, it's not working.heartinsanfranciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07535397382991383931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-27154153063925923792008-03-31T08:38:00.000-07:002008-03-31T08:38:00.000-07:00That's disgusting. Although if that tool wants to ...That's disgusting. Although if that tool wants to call that art, I want a chance to swing a sledhammer at Adel Abdessemed of Paris. It's only fair.furiousBallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11158133736035219163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-20393604982112959502008-03-31T08:09:00.000-07:002008-03-31T08:09:00.000-07:00Nice post! I'm with you, nice job! I hope the exhi...Nice post! I'm with you, nice job! I hope the exhibit doesn't push through at all. I want to believe that ART allows us to celebrate life...and not the other way around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-16998639508124911592008-03-31T08:07:00.000-07:002008-03-31T08:07:00.000-07:00Oh I wish I was still living in CA, I'd be at the ...Oh I wish I was still living in CA, I'd be at the front of the protestors with the biggest, loudest, booming voice imaginable. This is horrific! And I am so tired of "artists" pawning off lazy, unjustified, unoriginal brutality as "art", and saying that it's a comment on the human condition. What? That any idiot with little to no brain cells can kill something and call it art!?! 'Cause that's the ONLY comment I see here!Daniellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00467969521918613052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-51329867748026739102008-03-31T06:25:00.000-07:002008-03-31T06:25:00.000-07:00I am speechless.raise my voice with yours.I am speechless.<BR/><BR/>raise my voice with yours.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13690660290319444722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-31555880919964236862008-03-31T02:35:00.000-07:002008-03-31T02:35:00.000-07:00Thank goodness they've suspended this "exhibit". ...Thank goodness they've suspended this "exhibit". I can't believe the folks at the museum would even think torturing animals is art. And how do people even look at the photos? How sick the "artist" must be.Liz Dwyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794296990587989214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-86532797676340953152008-03-30T21:58:00.000-07:002008-03-30T21:58:00.000-07:00Angela,Yes. Reprehensible. Grotesque. Obscene. I...Angela,<BR/><BR/>Yes. Reprehensible. Grotesque. Obscene. <BR/><BR/>I'm really sick of the human race.<BR/><BR/>Meno,<BR/><BR/>It has to be done.<BR/><BR/>Jay,<BR/><BR/>Poor goat, and deer, and horse, poor all of them.<BR/><BR/>We are a very messed up species. We have so many natural gifts that there is simply no excuse for such abuse.<BR/><BR/>Oc,<BR/><BR/>I will post an update, of course. <BR/><BR/>It's really hard to understand how such behavior passes for fun.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for coming by today.<BR/><BR/>Citizen,<BR/><BR/>I'm a vegetarian, but not everyone who eats meat is a brutal savage. I think that most people would be as offended as we are by this.<BR/><BR/>Echomouse,<BR/><BR/>It IS porn of a sort. These are snuff films. Can there be anything worse?<BR/><BR/>Molly,<BR/><BR/>Apparently so. And "sadist" is the right word, not "artist." Such similar spellings... I can see how they got confused.heartinsanfranciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07535397382991383931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-81368202716198287822008-03-30T21:37:00.000-07:002008-03-30T21:37:00.000-07:00Has the SFAI lost their collective mind? giving le...Has the SFAI lost their collective mind? giving legitimacy to such a sadist??mollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03797484583400519909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-6191318629899219472008-03-30T21:32:00.000-07:002008-03-30T21:32:00.000-07:00Dear God, I just saw the photo and had to look awa...Dear God, I just saw the photo and had to look away. That's just sickening. That is not art. It's like when they try to pass porn as art...drives me crazy.<BR/><BR/>Good on you for speaking out about this!!! I'm really sorry you had to experience this. It's awful. {Hug}Echomousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05940320361755051172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-46252716314451148722008-03-30T18:55:00.000-07:002008-03-30T18:55:00.000-07:00Oh God, ust reading this twists my gut. It's horr...Oh God, ust reading this twists my gut. It's horrifying. And I would have felt that just as strongly when I was a meat eater. It is just purely wrong that they even agreed to host the exhibit. I hope you let us know what happens after the protest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-80846815658909797092008-03-30T18:35:00.000-07:002008-03-30T18:35:00.000-07:00That is just horrible. It's really hard for me to...That is just horrible. It's really hard for me to believe that the SFAI allowed such an exhibit. Seems to me that just glorifies the killing of animals for fun. Good for you for going to protest, I would as well if I still lived there. The thought that they could call this art is very disturbing indeed.<BR/><BR/>Please post an update after the meeting.Monhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10414206552049608109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29674249.post-72252599061461571562008-03-30T18:16:00.000-07:002008-03-30T18:16:00.000-07:00Poor goat.I really don't get people sometimes.A lo...Poor goat.<BR/><BR/>I really don't get people sometimes.<BR/><BR/>A lot of the time, really.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13158409505328990008noreply@blogger.com